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Shari Elliker Credits Improvisational Work for Helping Career

Elliker credits the improvisational work for helping her career. Recognizing how to respond, go with whatever is happening in the moment. 

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Shari Elliker has an extensive array of experience in radio in some major markets. Currently, she is co-host of the John Curley and Shari Elliker Show on KIRO-FM in Seattle from 3-6 pm PST.

While that’s all fine and well, that’s not what intrigued me the most. What about her portrayal of fictitious anchorperson Andrea Tandy on the HBO series, Veep?

“I auditioned for the part,” Elliker said. “I didn’t think much about it until I got a call from the casting director telling me the director of the episode really wanted me for the role.”

That was great news, but Elliker had other responsibilities she’d committed to. 

At the time, she was working with the National Assessment of Educational Progress (what Elliker referred to as basically a report card for the nation for grades 4-8). 

“The episode of Veep was set to be shot in Howard County, Maryland,” Elliker recalled, “and they had the whole soundstage up there. The casting director called me back, and again she told me the director really liked me and asked if there was some way I could make it work.”

Elliker figured it was worth a shot, called the production company, and told them they were her first priority but wondered if she could make the taping. They told her it was no problem and they could do what they’d planned with her at another time.

All was set for the filming, and Elliker aced it.

“I was thrilled,” Elliker said. “During shooting, I had papers in front of me, as any anchor person would. That was lucky as I was able to look down if I got stuck on a line.”

Elliker said while it was fun, she wasn’t thinking of it as a ‘big break’ in Hollywood. The production company didn’t stay in Maryland much longer.

“I don’t think they had any plans to expand my role, and the Maryland film incentives had dried up.”

She did tape three additional episodes of Veep and one more voice-over for the production. 

Then, as quickly as they came, the Veep production pulled up stakes and headed back to California.

Attending the University of Maryland, Elliker was the GM of WUMD. The school had two radio stations; one in College Park, Maryland, and the other in Baltimore, where she went to school. Elliker originally wanted to be a film major. After a couple of Super 8 projects, she realized that wouldn’t happen. 

“One of my Super-8 projects was about a guy I had a crush on in the dorms. Another was about a sandwich that made itself. Not Fellini stuff.”

With the film dream as vapid as Alex Jones and Infowars, Elliker knew she had to think quickly. Finishing school quickly was a goal, so she switched to communications.

“I learned a lot being on the air at WUMD. They didn’t have what you’d call a robust communications program. It wasn’t even called ‘communication.’ It was more of a hybrid option. It was interdisciplinary where you’d design your own curriculum.” 

Later, Elliker joined a political satire group in D.C., Gross National Product. 

In 1988, GNP launched Scandal Tours, an insider’s bus tour of the sites that have made Washington infamous, and highlighted shady characters like Gary Hart, Fanny Foxe, Marilyn Monroe, and the White House JFK practically turned into a Motel 6.  Elliker played Fawn Hall and Rita Jennrette. 

“Tourists would get on a bus, and the players would wear costumes and act out the scandals,” Elliker said. “We’d run to the back of the bus, hop in the bathroom and change our clothes. Then we’d run back to the front of the bus and grab the microphone.” 

GNP also did stage shows out of The Bayou, a club in Georgetown.

“It was a little like Second City, but more political,” Elliker said. “We’d make fun of both sides, but we weren’t mean-spirited. In 1992 it was easier to poke fun at everything. We did a lot of President George Bush jokes, Dan Quayle jokes.” 

Elliker credits the improvisational work for helping her career. Recognizing how to respond, go with whatever is happening in the moment. 

“I imagine those skills are helpful no matter what business you go into.”

“I was also doing dumb industrial films playing roles like a postal worker,” Elliker said. “One time I was a heroin addict looking for government cheese. Not sure how that ended.” 

Now we come to traffic reporting. Elliker said back in the 90s, traffic reporters were ubiquitous. She wanted to do voiceovers, and a good way to get work would be to get her name recognized. 

“I figured if I got my name out there somehow, it would end up being beneficial,” she said. In a brash move, Elliker called the Metro traffic manager in D.C. and the regional manager happened to be there. 

“I told him I was wondering how one becomes a traffic reporter. He told me I had a nice voice and to send a tape. I taped a  traffic broadcast, then recorded myself reciting the information verbatim.”

It worked. The regional manager told Elliker they needed someone to report on traffic at the Bay Bridge in Maryland, near the Eastern Shore.

“It was beach traffic and the job was god-awful,” Elliker recalls. “Large trucks would downshift in the middle of my report. This went on for the entire summer, and I knew this wasn’t for me.”

Now that reporting traffic was in the dumper, the famous Don and Mike Show called her out of the blue. They had a traffic reporter on maternity leave and asked Elliker if she’d do an afternoon drive until they could find a replacement.

Nope.

“I said I wasn’t going to do an afternoon drive.”

Then, maybe. 

“I thought about it and figured what’s the worst they could do? Talk mean to me? Make fun of me?  I called them back and said I’d do it for a couple of days, and to my surprise, they were really nice and kind to me. I ended up getting the job and did it for four years, becoming part of the ensemble cast. I very much was the giggle-chick on the Don and Mike Show.”

Elliker left D&M in 1998 so she could expand her role in the morning show on WHFS.  She said the WHFS show was different. It was a legendary station born out of a basement.

“I was not cool enough; I was really a dork.” Elliker said people at the station were all ‘super cool.’  “They had a HFSetival, a giant deal with 20 bands. The station took themselves so seriously. The station was on Corporate Drive, but jocks were forbidden from saying it because it wasn’t cool.” 

Elliker hosted her own morning radio show on WBAL in Baltimore from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. starting in 2007 but moved to afternoons once the station went to a news format in the afternoons and moved their veteran talk show host Ron Smith to mornings.

In addition to all this other stuff, Elliker did win the Associated Press “Best Talk Show” in both 2007 and 2008 for The Shari Elliker Show on WBAL.  

(She asked me not to bring up the awards as she’s a humble soul, but there it is.)

Her current show with John Curley on KIRO is news/talk, but it’s always an irreverent look at the world. Despite being on the same show, Curley and Elliker are a country apart during broadcasts. Curley is in Seattle, and Ellikeris in Virginia.

When Elliker was with the Don and Mike Show, Curley would come on as a regular guest, and they got to know each other. Curley was looking for a co-host. 

 Elliker went to Seattle and met with Curley. 

“We talked about all types of topics,” Elliker said. She and Curley hit it off right away. They ended up hiring TomTangney from the station, and they worked together on the Tom & Curley Show for ten years. 

Elliker left a strong impression because in 2021, the station called to say Elliker Tangey was retiring after 27 years at KIRO. After some fill-in shifts, she got the open job. That’s a good thing because Elliker seems to like her new partner. 

“John is brilliant,” she said. “He’s so present. I’ve worked with a lot of people, dealt with a lot of personalities, but John is simply the best. He has command of subjects. Discusses stories that are relevant, funny, disarming. John is never afraid to be vulnerable, even telling a childhood story every so often. They are often hilarious but heartbreaking. I really respect him.”

Living across the country might be healthy for a marriage, but how does it work for a broadcast team?

“We divide the show,” Elliker explained. “I’ll present some of the facts, John will give me his take on it, and we’ll go back and forth. It would be so boring for me if I didn’t find him completely entertaining every day. He truly makes me laugh.” 

Elliker said they had developed a rhythm, kind of like dancing. 

“We give each other room. You get to understand where the other may be going with something.”

Like I said, a healthy marriage.

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Michael Berry Doesn’t Want to Be All Serious All the Time

“I get to entertain everyday and people come and listen to me. That really — more than anything else — is the thrill.”

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There are plenty of nationally syndicated radio shows that began as local shows. Not many hosts, however, have both a local radio show and a nationally syndicated show each weekday. But Michael Berry isn’t your average radio talk show host.

In addition to hosting a local show on NewsRadio 740 KTRH, Berry hosts The Michael Berry Show on more than 40 stations throughout the nation. And he believes having a local show in his hometown market — Houston — while still getting to talk about national topics on his afternoon show is the ideal situation for him.

“It lets me sort of keep my hand in two very different pies and do two very different shows. And that fulfills me,” Berry said. “I wouldn’t want to do just one or just the other. And I think part of it — I was the Mayor Pro Tem of the city of Houston, so I got very involved and very entrenched in the political world. I know a lot of the restaurant owners, I know a lot of business owners, and I really enjoy making the fourth-largest city into a tiny town for our listeners.

“But I also want to be able to talk to a national audience on a national level. I get to do both of those. I think that’s ideal for me.”

Michael Berry served on the City Council in Houston from 2002-2008, which gives him a unique perspective about both local and national politics that many others in the format don’t have.

“I think the experience of how bills are made and the backroom deals and how they’re done, I think that informs my opinions in a way that if you haven’t done that, it makes it harder to understand,” said Berry. “Also the blocking and tackling of how you get bills passed and how you win elections and those sorts of things.

“It just gives you that experience and it also helps you understand when a politician or an elected official says something that seems to go against what he believes or what he promised. You have a better sense of ‘Ok, who did he sell out to? Why did he do that? Where is the pressure point?’

“Because I think listeners want to understand not just why is Mitch McConnell doing something that feels like it’s against what the base is doing. The better question is, what’s the pressure point? What’s driving him? Who’s pushing him into that corner? And I think when you’re in the process, you get a very good sense of that.”

One could refer to Michael Berry as an almost new-age news/talk host. While one of the large criticisms of conservative talk radio today is the vitriol and anger most hosts present on the air, Berry is often presenting the opposite. Oftentimes, his show isn’t centered on conservative political viewpoints at all. A constant presentation of hope, admiration, and excitement not just about politics but about culture and the conservative lifestyle is the backbone of Berry’s program.

And while he has an affinity for those inside the conservative talk radio format, he simply believes he’s filling a different, virtually unoccupied, lane.

“There are some brilliant people out there on the radio. Sean Hannity has access to every elected official. Clay (Travis) and Buck (Sexton) are getting access to anybody they want as a guest. Mark Levin is a brilliant mind, a brilliant legal mind. (Glenn) Beck has a great perspective from decades of experience. Dan Bongino’s a really smart guy. There’s some really, really clever, smart, experienced broadcasters. I don’t need to be a lighter version of them, which is all I could ever hope to be. I want to be who I am,” admitted Berry.

“And I don’t see myself as competing with them. I wouldn’t want to. They’re all wonderful. We can all coexist, but I don’t want to watch the same show 24 hours a day. I want to create content that is different than other people are doing,” Berry continued. “Not because I’m better or they’re not good, but because I don’t think I can do it as well as they can. So I want to do what I do well.”

Michael Berry free admits he’d get bored simply sticking to the conservative political script for two separate shows each day. That’s why weaving other topics into his program continues to excite him.

“If all you do is what I call angry, old white man radio, you can’t build an audience and you can’t keep an audience. And the reason is that it becomes tedious. It becomes a chore to listen to. And everybody has heard that type of program that never laughs at anything and especially not that itself. We want to make people laugh. We want to talk about real life things, as well. We don’t have to talk politics 24/7.

“When I think about the influence in this country, on the culture, comedians have always had such an influence. The reason is that when you’re laughing, you’re thinking, and you’re engaging and you’re building your bond. I think that one of the great barriers to success in radio and success for the conservative movement is the inability to bond on the deeper level of let’s share a laugh.

“I think there is a great joy when I find that I’m making a point that I consider to be important, and yet in the middle of it, we can all laugh.”

Ultimately, Michael Berry doesn’t view his role in talk radio as a political pontificator, conservative advocate, or a preacher from behind the Republican pulpit. He views his craft from a completely different angle.

“I view myself as an entertainer. The hardcore conservative listeners don’t like me to say that because that means you must not mean what you say, or you’re not serious. I mean every word I say. And I’m very serious,” Berry stated. “But I’m serious in the way Dave Chappelle is serious. And make no mistake, Dave Chappelle is having a huge influence in America today on how we view the First Amendment or the concepts of freedom of thought…the reason is, is because he’s dead serious while making you laugh.

“When I was really deciding that this was a career I wanted to pursue…I went and studied stand-up comics, because I felt like that was the place. Otherwise, I would just mimic the guys that were already successful, and I didn’t want to do that,” Berry continued. “I felt dishonest about that.

“So what I did, instead, is I went and studied comedians, and delivery and how you engage an audience and how you hold an audience and how you make a point without beating the audience over the head with it. And how you go from point to point, how you pivot, how you make it fun. A lot of these are sort of back porch conversation tricks, you know, parlor games of, of how we keep a conversation going except it’s a one one man conversation without it feeling like I’m lecturing you.”

During our conversation, Michael Berry admitted he can hear hosts around the country who have lost the will to create compelling content, who say things they don’t believe, and are no longer in love with the format that once enticed them to join the industry.

However, he’s made a vow to never lose the excitement that comes with working in a format he still thoroughly enjoys.

“I view it as I get to wake up every day excited to go to the studio. My dad worked for 40 years at a plant in the maintenance unit and he hated every day of it. But he had all us kids to take care of. I get to entertain every day and people come and listen to me,” he shared. “That really, more than anything else, that is the thrill. I know that sounds hokey, but it’s true.

“I think that most people probably don’t love what they do…I’m a megalomaniac. We all have to be to have the audacity to think that you can talk every day and people want to hear you, but I love it. It’s a thrill. I love to talk and I love to create stories and I love to create entertainment and create content. And when I hear from people that in some way they enjoyed it. It’s more rewarding than you can imagine, in the way that it would be for a pastor, or a comedian, or a songwriter, or a singer. It is incredibly rewarding.

“We live in an abundance of riches when it comes to content…but for them to choose to come and say I’m gonna let you entertain me,” Michael Berry concluded. “That is the ultimate compliment.”

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Do Radio Hosts Actually Care About What They’re Talking About?

So many shows do topics because they feel like they have to. Maybe the topic’s trending. Maybe it’s leading the news. But if you don’t care, listeners will notice.

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If you don’t care, why should anyone else care about what you do?

That’s one reason why I didn’t watch the NBA All-Star Game Sunday night. You don’t get a 211-186 final if anyone is remotely making any effort at all. It’s an extended version of the pre-game warmup. Everyone’s throwing up threes with no defense. They might as well break into a layup drill. Nobody wants to get injured in a meaningless game. I’ve endured a lot of All-Star games among the major sports leagues, and I stopped bothering to watch years ago. I haven’t missed much.

That translates to other realms as well. This column focuses on the media, so if you’re, say, a talk radio host, you should be asking yourself whether you really care about what you’re talking about. That’s the threshold question: Do you care? Because if you don’t, are you really going to put in the effort to make the topic entertaining so that other people – your listeners – care enough to listen and stay with you for the whole segment?

So many shows do topics because they feel like they have to. Maybe the topic’s trending. Maybe it’s leading the news. But if you don’t care, listeners will notice. And “I don’t care about it” isn’t a particularly compelling talk radio topic, is it?

It’s easier for local sports talk – it’s a given that whatever you’re ranting about and whatever take you have, listeners care because, well, who listens to sports radio and doesn’t care about what’s going on (All-Star Games notwithstanding)?

News organizations, on the other hand, have a different goal: If it’s news that on the surface is dry and boring but still matters, it’s the reporters’ and editors’ job to explain why a viewer or reader should care. Ukraine or Gaza might seem remote to a lot of people, but their importance to a typical U.S. citizen can’t be understated, and it’s important (and often forgotten) to emphasize why they matter and what impact they have on everyone.

The simple fact is that the energy you project on anything you talk about or report upon is a reflection of what you have invested in the story. You can fake enthusiasm, but if you just truly don’t care about Taylor and Travis, you’ll just be going through the motions and that’s what the audience perceives.

On the other hand, if you’ve invested a lot of time digging into an arcane financial story and you know that what seems like a remote, inscrutable radio topic may have profound consequences for many consumers, emphasize that and make clear why the viewer or reader should care, and do it right out of the gate to grab their attention.

Here, a digression: Why do they even bother with the actual All-Star Game anymore? Take the NBA All-Star Weekend: Nobody will remember anything about the game (other than that one team scored over 200 points) but everyone will remember the Steph Curry-Sabrina Ionescu shootout. They may remember Mac McClung’s repeat dunk contest win or the celebrity game or Rising Stars games.

Why not just do the skills and challenges, which are usually entertaining, and skip the All-Star Game itself, which isn’t? Maybe add some contests and honors for past greats. Most of the people who trek to the All-Star venue are there for the parties anyway. And with baseball now doing interleague play all season, none of the All-Star Games involve getting to see players who don’t normally face each other in the regular season face off. They don’t need a game nobody in it wants to play. I recognize this will never happen.

But the main takeaway here is that it’s less true that you can’t make someone care about a thing they don’t care about themselves than it is true that if you don’t care, you have zero chance making anyone else care. Your poker face isn’t that good.

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Radio Was Built For Charity and Volunteer Work

Your charitable activities build a better world. Your radio show and station make a real difference.

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Art Bell once said, “We are all here for a Cosmic Blink. Use your time wisely.”  The wisest man in all of history, a fellow named Solomon said, “Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.” All of us are drawn to radio for usually a basic human impulse…it is a narcissistic rage that exists in every baby. Look at me! Listen to me! My opinions are important!

Unless you are a completely narcissistic fool, you have looked in the mirror and wondered about why we are here. What is your worth in the cosmic blink? Ok, let old Uncle Peter (Yes, I went full third person) explain.

We have all been given an amazing platform. Not only to spout our beliefs, biases, and humor, but to touch our communities. Does your show have a charity? Why not? Does your station have a charity or a “Day of Action” to support local causes? The answer should be yes. Radio shows and stations raise millions of dollars to improve our society. We raise awareness of issues that create change. It is why we are here. 

Before I give you some random idea starters for your show/station, let’s talk about the charities that you personally support. Do you give a portion of your income to religious, humanitarian, or conservation projects that you believe in? You should if you don’t make these donations. I don’t know what floats your boat, but I think it is important psychologically to donate to organizations that do good things in our world. 

These donations allow a portion of the cosmic blink of our lives to pay it forward. Even if you don’t make a lot of money, a small donation helps you feel connected to our world. If you are particularly blessed by the fruits of your hard work, make that donation bigger. Investing in the charities and religious organizations of our choice gives us significance. Instead of the narcissistic screaming for change, it is an action step.

Your show can unify your community through service. There was a movement that is still going on today by some churches that take a Sunday off from a religious service to spend their day serving their communities. This can be painting an elderly widow’s home, cleaning a park, feeding the homeless, or other things. If you speak to homeless shelters, lots of people want to volunteer on Thanksgiving morning, but not so much in the middle of February. 

So how about a day of service for your radio show? Reach out to a local charity that needs volunteers and make it an all-day affair. Perhaps you can do your show from the homeless shelter. Interview the people who serve the downtrodden every day or interview listeners who donated their day with you? Make it big and use your platform to make someone’s life better.

For those of you who have been doing radio for a decade or less, I have had listeners reach out to me about something that I said on the air 25 years ago. It’s very humbling. Every day you get on the air trying to perform. Heck, have you ever wanted to scream “Is anyone listening?” I have. I had someone reach out to me on Twitter to share a moment that meant so much to him. When those moments happen, I thank them for listening and what an honor it was to impact their memories in such a way. You are making a difference for people every day. 

Your station may broadcast a big charitable event each year. Be involved in every aspect of the planning process. Buy in 100%. When you take full ownership of the station event, your interest will take this fundraiser to the next level. Talk about a way to build goodwill in the community. 

Do you want to create an unbreakable bond? Help a local charity. You will go viral. Take selfies with all of the volunteers and organizers. Put this on your social media. Make it big. Do something that makes a difference. Go to their events and volunteer to do anything. Likely, you will be an emcee, but, if they want you to wrap presents, shovel up some stuff do it. Be a servant. 

In our post-COVID world, I keep reading about disconnection. Civic groups and religious organizations are experiencing a crisis of participation. This is terrible. Our society’s drift into solitude is damaging. Census figures show that the average household size in the USA is about 2.5 people. This means there are a lot of people sitting in a home or apartment alone. These people are disconnected from society. They go to work, go home, and live their solitary life online. Humans are not built for this. Your radio show is a connection for them. By the way: Your community’s average age is probably around 37 years. Think of this. You are a lynchpin for building community. Your station’s charitable events help people belong to something greater than themselves.

You are an influencer. Be a leader. Build a community. Create belonging.

Your charitable activities build a better world. Your radio show and station make a real difference.

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