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Newsmax Has Let Rob Carson Be Himself

Newsmax’s Rob Carson said he gets his comedic chops from his mother and his background includes comedic writing for Rush Limbaugh.

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What can I say? The guy is funny. 

Rob Carson said he gets his comedic chops from his mother. Carson’s background includes comedic writing for  Rush Limbaugh. His shows are fast-paced, and his podcasts are fun. 

“A sense of humor comes naturally for some people,” Carson said. “Just like my namesake Johnny Carson.”

I get the timing from my mother,” Carson explained. “I observed the greats like Carlin, Cosby and Steve Martin. Martin’s act was made for sixth-grade boys. I knew early I wanted to be involved in comedy performance, whatever direction that went.”

At this point in the conversation, Carson breaks into a pretty good Johnny Carson imitation. 

“I would like to have met him,” Carson said of the late Carson. “I’ve read he’s very different off camera than he was on camera. He didn’t want to be a celebrity. I’m different from him in that I love performing.”

Carson (the one that’s alive) said he loves to see people laugh, it’s important to him. He also loves to cook. 

“I get more joy out of watching people enjoy my cooking as I do out of eating it myself. Maybe more. People may disagree on politics, but we don’t disagree on barbeque ribs. The moral of this story–don’t tie politics in with eating.”

While he seems like a tolerant guy, he has a breaking point.

“We had some friends come visit us at the house,” Carson explained. “I wanted to make it special for them, so I went to Trader Joe’s and dumped a lot of money on vegan crap for their weekend. I brought the vegan groceries home and when I started seeing them reading the labels, I said to hell with it. That was it for me.”

Carson entered the blistering world of News/Talk in 2014 in Kansas City. 

“I’d filled in on what seemed like every radio station in America,” he said. “My first full-time talk position was at KCMO.”

After Carson got laid off from a gig in D.C., Carson said he had to figure out how to put together a home studio, then filled in that way.  

Things weren’t going as he’d planned in radio, and Carson said it was affecting his family life.

“I had to get a job out of radio to save my marriage. My wife said she wasn’t going to move again for a radio gig, so I did what I had to do. She was on her way out the door and said I’d better figure out how to pay the bills.”

It turns out he was pretty good at selling cars. 

“In my first month, I sold more cars in the dealership. I was lucky because my wife gave me a second chance. She promised there wouldn’t be a third.”

Gulp.

That’s when Newsmax and Chris Ruddy called Carson. 

“He asked where I’d been recently and I told him I’d been in an abusive relationship with radio,” Carson jokes.

This led to Newsmax TV’s Rob Carson’s What in the World show. 

“Chris Ruddy told me it was mine, I owned it and to do what I wanted.”

The show went from 0 to 600,000 downloads in four months. Ruddy didn’t offer Carson any advice. He just let Carson be Carson. (Not the one with Ed McMahon.)

“I had to make some adjustments,” Carson said. “I didn’t want to come into the figurative room too hot. Some hosts use coarse language at times. I’m not saying that’s exactly what I did, but let’s just say I made a few adjustments.”

Carson started doing some writing for Rush Limbaugh in 1990. 

“Rush was a funny guy,” Carson said. “In a different way than me. Rush’s comedy was a little like a dry cabernet. Mine is like chocolate milk with a spit take that comes out your nose.”

Carson is a man in a constant state of preparation. 

“I start prepping for the next day’s show during the current show,” he said. “I’ll put the current show ‘in the bank.’ Go to the studio and work. My producer will create a piece of satire for the next day.”

“I play all my own audio on my TV show,” Carson said. “I like to riff. I run everything. I don’t want to have to stop the momentum to tell a producer to play something. I was a jock and feel comfortable with my own audio. As a talk personality, I don’t want to rely on a producer. They can’t think like me. A producer can’t think as quickly as I do. I love it. It’s like singing, playing the banjo, and harmonica at the same time.”

Television connoisseur Donald Trump told Carson he was the funniest person on TV. 

“He likes my commentary. He also likes when I do improvisation during a video clip.”

Sure, but Trump also loves Shark Week. 

“Trump said he always wonders how I think on my feet. It’s a little like Robin Williams full-tilt, but I have to bring it back sometimes.”

Carson and I talked about comedy often coming from tragedy. His early life was no exception. His brother died at just 38 years of age. His father left the house when Carson was just 7 years old.

“My brother used to be closer to my father. They worked on a motorcycle together. I didn’t know him as well and wasn’t close to him.”

Carson was a physically big kid, describing his athleticism as ‘mediocre in every fashion.’ 

“I was the kid they put in right field,” Carson said. “I didn’t want the ball hit toward me. I did hit pretty well.”

Growing up in Iowa, Carson said he felt he had to wrestle. “I was a big kid so I wrestled from fifth grade through my freshman year in high school. That’s where it started to suck. I’d go to some schools and they couldn’t find a kid big enough to wrestle me. Can you imagine how hard it might be to not be able to find a big kid to wrestle in Iowa?”

Carson said he laughs when he hears podcasts are a novel form of communication and entertainment. 

“No, they’re not. They were doing a version of podcasts in the 1930s and 40s that my grandmother listened to,” Carson said. “An hour-long vignette is nothing new. They stopped those when television came around. As far as my career is concerned, I want to be a major player in oral communications and video.”

Carson said so much talk is focused on political punditry. His idea is to be more about entertaining and connecting. He is aiming high. 

“I’d like to supplement my radio show with a nationally syndicated television show, with my brand of conservative talk. I’ve been saying conservative comedy could be funny forever.”

Garrison Keillor liked Carson’s work. That is until he learned Carson wrote for Limbaugh. “Fifteen years ago I got a call from Oprah’s network telling me they’d seen my stuff and said I was fantastic. I never heard back. I’m pretty sure it’s because they realized I’m a conservative.”

Carson says he’s not a desk pounder. “Instead, I like to use humor as one of the arrows in my quiver.” Carson says if you have Newsmax TV, you can check out an archive of his shows. 

“I’m deadly serious about being conservative and part of the future of the country,” Carson said. “I’m not Alex Jones. I’m not an angry Michael Savage. I am passionate about patriotism. I use humor to disarm my opposition.”

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News is the Only Thing Missing From Election Coverage

Coverage of the election is, as we’ve discussed, still very horse-race-centric, and there’s been, of course, coverage of the various Trump court cases, but where is the coverage of exactly what the candidates plan to do if elected?

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The first thought I had when I heard NBC had hired Ronna McDaniel as a commentator for $300,000 a year was to wonder how many actual journalists they could have hired for that money. Then, I recalled that NBC had laid off dozens of news staffers just a few months ago. Then, I remembered that I had just recently written a column decrying news organizations throwing pretty much anybody on the air as a “pundit” and this….

This was worse. It’s one thing to grab some rando who happened to be a minor functionary for the Executive Branch. It’s another to hire someone whose job was to promote election denialism and pretend that her opinion is something valuable for viewers. And, yes, it’s just as ridiculous when news organizations hire former presidential press secretaries (that’s you, Jen Psaki and Sean Spicer), their very jobs were to spin everything in their bosses’ favor and now you’re going to pay them big salaries for, um, what? Because they “have a name” or you’re afraid someone else will snap them up? Why them?

The McDaniel deal lasted five days, one completely unilluminating interview, and one unexpected Chuck Todd spine-growing outburst, so it’ll all blow over soon enough. The problem is, though, the part about having fired several news staffers, and what it means in an election year on both the national and local levels. If you have the money to hire an alleged pundit – any alleged pundit – you have the money to hire reporters, and I don’t mean anchors or opinion show hosts.

Coverage of the election is, as we’ve discussed, still very horse-race-centric, and there’s been, of course, coverage of the various Trump court cases, but where is the coverage of exactly what the candidates plan to do if elected? Who’s probing Project 2025 and why isn’t it front-page, first-segment news? Who’s pressing the Biden administration on Gaza? Is anyone reporting on the candidates’ record on climate change?

Beyond prescription drug prices, is anyone digging into the broken healthcare system and demanding answers from the candidates about what they’ll do to fix it (and not letting Trump get away with “I’ll have a better plan, a beautiful plan” without a single specific detail, like they did in 2016)? Why didn’t anyone focus on, for example, the GOP candidate for governor of North Carolina and his incendiary past comments well before the primary?

Pundits are not going to do the legwork on the issues; they’ll just talk about swing states while John King and Steve Kornacki point at their touchscreen maps. We need reporting on the things that matter (and can affect that horse race, even if most people have made up their minds). It shouldn’t just be Pro Publica and scattered independent journalists doing the dirty work.

Honestly, I don’t want to hear the complaints about the quality of the candidates or how this is a rerun or any of that. (We’ll leave that to The New York Times.) We are a horribly underinformed electorate and we got the horse race we deserve. It might just be idealists like me who think that, just maybe, the news media can play a role in educating the public and bursting the bubbles and echo chambers. This country has survived and prospered for a few centuries with the press shining a light on injustice and corruption.

Now, when we need that most, they’re more concerned with what they think will bring them ratings and money (although someone will have to explain to me who thought having Ronna McDaniel as a paid commentator would draw a single viewer to NBC).

Here’s a thought: Don’t lay off reporters, especially in an election year.  Assign them to dig deep on issues that matter to the voters.

Let the pundits talk about that.

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8 Ways to Take Your Commercials From Drab to Fab

Our main source of income is derived from commercials. There are a lot of bad commercials.

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Another reason to read this column, I often add an Easter egg. We are in the advertising business. Our main source of income is derived from commercials. There are a lot of bad commercials. Frequently, clients write these ads. You can excuse it if the spots suck. But when the commercials are written by Account Executives or the production department at the station, it is kind of unforgivable.

I am going to share the most meaningless phrases in commercials.

Locally Owned and Operated

Customers do not care. If customers cared about a business being locally owned and operated, Walmart would not exist. People want service, selection, and value. They do not want to get soaked. When you purchase something, are you willing to pay 20% for a local company? If you say yes, you are wrong. People want a deal.

The Phone Number

Doing 70 down the 405, John slammed on the brakes to write down the phone number for an amazing HVAC Company. That is not how it works people. HVAC companies rarely have or should have regular customers.

Normally, your AC is out. You call the HVAC Company that you are familiar with. Radio advertising allows people to have “TOMA”: Top of Mind Awareness. There are stats that show when a company is advertising on your radio station, their website shows an increase in traffic. When you needed a service for your home, you hit Google and choose the company that you’ve heard of. It’s that simple. I actually heard a commercial asking listeners to add a businesses phone number to their contact list. That is a moronic use of advertising real estate.

Street Addresses

“Tequilaberry’s Prime Rib is located at 106 East Governors Drive in Peoria.” 

The people listening cannot process that detail. You could say “Tequilaberry’s Prime Rib is on Governors Drive just off 10th in Peoria.” That is almost digestible. That creates a picture of where it is.

Trust me, people interested in prime rib will Google you and load the address in their navigation system. Spend that precious spot time selling the experience of the restaurant.

Always Using the Company Owner/Founder in Commercials

Sometimes, it is amazing when business owners are their spokesperson. They have passion and are natural salespeople. Some business owners are terrible at speaking about their product.

When you have a business owner who is a natural promoter, they can drag listeners into their business. I once worked with a family who owned a couple of hardware stores. They spoke about the benefits of visiting their stores. It was heartfelt and real. They promised that their employees can help solve any problem in your home. If you went to that store and had a simple or complex problem, the employees helped you out.

I once worked with a man who owned a really nice flooring company.  For whatever reason, he thought that he was funny. He had spots written by him, his wife, or a kid. The ads were dreadful. They were not funny at all. Account Executives need to talk these clients out of doing commercials like this. Nothing says wacky hijinks like flooring.

Overuse of Numbers

“We have grapes at 99 cents a pound, Chuck steak at $1.99, two-for-one zucchini.”

Trust me, no one driving in city traffic can keep track of that. “The 2025 Chevy Chevette is back with 45-mpg efficiency and amazing 18-inch tires. Prices start at $19,999…  The New Chevy Silverado starts at $32,999.”

It gets really confusing fast.

WWW.

Yes, I hear commercials saying check us on the internet at “W-W-W dot business name here dot com.”

WWW is assumed and not needed anymore unless you are running a Commadore-64 with the latest floppy disc technology.

Yellow Pages Ad

“Check out our new ad in the Yellow Pages!”

OMG, no one reads those damn things anymore. Most people born after 1960 just toss those suckers in the trash. There was a time when the Yellow Pages were the largest revenue generator in advertising. Yes, a book of ads. Like Facebook, without your buddy’s political, vacation, or food posts. It was just ads. Zero content.

I had stuffed salmon tonight that I engineered myself. I would make Sydney Sweeney quite the trophy husband. Set us up. Hey, I am single. It was not that long ago that you would hear a radio ad that promoted a coupon in the Sunday paper.

Well, that copy should be deader than a doornail.

Amateur Theater

A husband and wife discussing their lawn and how she heard about Telly’s Lawn Service from her friend Stacy. 

Those commercials are obviously contrived and not interesting at all. 

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Open every commercial must have an attention-grabbing opener. “Totally Jammed…  The floor covered with the guest towels. Fearing the horrific consequences of another flush…  I did the right thing. I called ABC Plumbing. Quick service, a great price, and peace of mind.”

The next time that the plunger is failing to get the desired results, the listener of that commercial will identify with the very realist scenario.

We are in the advertising business. Use radio as it was meant.

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The Lost Art of Using Sound as a Springboard

Use sound it wherever you can. All you need is a loyal, capable and willing board operator, to go along with a conscientious host.

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Jon Stewart was the first guy to do it — take a politician’s words from the news of the day or week. Search his or her entire past and find a sound byte saying the exact opposite.

It became an art form – and a great way to keep people accountable.

Most radio operations don’t have the resources necessary to consistently do something like that, but truth be told, that kind of journalism isn’t really the point of this week’s column.

It’s an example of the simple power of sound. We need to use it more within our shows. Use sound it wherever you can. All you need is a loyal, capable, and willing board operator, to go along with a conscientious host.

Speaking from experience, not doing it is lazy.

Doing it takes minimal effort and helps conversations tremendously – especially when it’s in real-time. I know. I’ve been there – missing opportunity after opportunity because I didn’t think of it, ask for help or just do it myself.

Put simply, good sound is a better springboard to a question than just a question.

Just the other day, I realized how well it works and how little I’ve been doing it.

Here’s what happened.

We have one particularly heated congressional race in our state. The Republican candidate is running for a second time after narrowly losing in 2022 in an election where Connecticut’s gubernatorial candidate from the same party got smoked, and the Republican presidential candidate lost the state as well.

This time around, there’s a struggling Democratic President with real doubts about the economy and the country’s standing in the world.

Put simply, the Democratic congressional incumbent has a massive task ahead to get re-elected.

On my show, I try to be consistently independent and be a place for both parties to appear with the expectation that the conversations will be fair and honest.

The Republican candidate came on the show earlier this month, and we went through a number of issues. Connecticut is a relatively strong Democratic stronghold, where the party controls the legislature, the Governor’s Mansion, and the entire congressional delegation.

Having said that, the largest voting block is unaffiliated, so appealing to independents is crucial for either side to win. I asked the Republican candidate twice about whether he will support Donald Trump, and both times, he equivocated. I asked the follow-up, we were on the record, so I moved on.

The following week, his opponent, the Democratic incumbent, was scheduled to appear on the show. Before her arrival, I realized the Trump Q&A should probably be replayed for her. Duh.

My producer found it, clipped it, and had it at the ready. I felt that I should have realized it sooner and not put some added strain on my partner’s morning routine. He was fine, but it definitely added unnecessary work within the show.

Lesson learned.

The sound byte worked well. I played it. She responded. We moved the story forward, and it was compelling – as you might imagine, the topic of Trump vs. Biden is pretty compelling these days.

By no means did it create a “wow” moment. That would be a little much. But it did make the show better, using the opponent’s own voice as opposed to my paraphrasing something. That lends credibility, not only to the topic but also to the show. He gave this important answer on our show, and she gave her response … on our show.

My final thought on this is that we (I) need to look for more places to utilize sound as a springboard to conversations, as opposed to simply raising the topic and discussing it. Maybe you’re already good at it and do it all the time, but this past week, I realized I need to push myself to do it more.

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