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Rich Valdes Was Mentored By Talk Radio Titans

“One of the first things Mark taught me was to be genuine. He told me you can’t go on the air and be someone you’re not comfortable with.”

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Regardless of how much experience someone has in an industry, you’re taking on a whole new world when you replace a legend. Rich Valdes has always been cognizant of that.

Jim Bohannon passed away last November after decades on top of the radio industry. Bohannon was the primary fill-in host for Larry King’s national radio show and Bohannon’s show aired on 300 stations across the country at the time of his death.

“I filled in for Jim for a few months while he was in treatment for cancer,” Valdes said.

When he got his own nationally syndicated show, Valdes recognized how the slot had only two hosts in 45 years; Larry King and Jim Bohannon. Bohannon’s show was one of the most coveted slots, number 15 out of 20 when Valdes took over.

“I just said, ‘Thank you, Jesus.’ I was ready to become an old man in that seat. To become a  cantankerous conservative curmudgeon for the rest of my days.”

Bohannon told Valdes before he took over his slot, ‘You have a track record, people have heard you and you’ve got the goods and the talent,” Bohannon said. “You have the ability to do the job’.”

Filling in for Bohannon allowed Valdes to better understand what made Bohannon so great. Valdes shared that doing talk radio has been one of the greatest challenges of his life. Valdes studied Bohannon and his on-air presence.

“When they told me I was going to be filling in for Jim, I started listening to hours and hours and hours of his tapes to hear his style and his cadence, just to make sure that I delivered the show the way the audience was looking for and expected.”

Westwood One has rebranded Bohannon’s show as Rich Valdes’ America at Night, airing Monday through Friday from 10:00 PM – 1:00 AM ET.

Valdes started as an associate producer on Mark Levin’s show, which at the time was the second largest nationally syndicated live daily conservative talk radio program in the US.

It was Levin who enthusiastically endorsed Valdés for his new hosting role. Bohannon called Valdes “a very bright, vibrant young man. Levin once said of Valdes that he was an “unapologetic patriot.”

“What I think he was saying was a lot of people are willing to go along to get along,” Valdes explained. “For example,  standing for the pledge of allegiance. I don’t care who is looking or doing what. We’re standing for that. For love of our country. For entertaining and informing others.”

Levin also coined Valdes as “Your liberty-loving Latino amigo.”

“That’s a nickname Mark Levin gave me when I filled in as a guest host on his show,” Valdes explained. “One of the first things Mark taught me was to be genuine. He told me you can’t go on the air and be someone you’re not comfortable with. ‘Richie, always be yourself,’ he’d tell me. You’re funny, smart and you’re good at being you. Nobody else can be you. Some hosts try to emulate other hosts, but listeners can detect that.”

On his show Valdes takes calls throughout the night. However, the final hour of the night is dedicated to calls from across the country covering all the hot topics from the day.

A couple of Valdes’favorite radio hosts and influences include Mark Levin, Curtis Sliwa, John Batchelor, and Spanish-language broadcaster Luis Jimenez.

“Curtis is very good and has always been a radio geek,” Valdes said. “He’s a protegee of Bob Grant. Grant used to say things like, ‘Get off my phone you skunk.’ He gave pushback but was funny at the same time. Both treated a topic or conversation in their own way. Curtis brings his Brooklyn upbringing onto the show.”

Valdes said Sliwa is a product from his neighborhood. That’s his whole thing.

“He’s a very local sounding New York host, with all the slang, sayings, and a whole lot of humor,” Valdes said. “Curtis has a lot of contrarian points. He routinely attacked whichever mayor was in office, except the ones who were tough on crime. He always told me, ‘Richie, it’s theater of the mind. Take them on a journey, paint them a picture.’”

When Valdes was 33, he was working in government. His mother had passed away and his father died a few years after that.

“I guess I was a little depressed and had enough of working in government,” Valdes explained. “I’d taken some time off to take care of my dad, living off savings for a couple of years. A friend of mine told me I was always listening to talk radio, and I should get into the field. To me, that was like saying I wanted to be in the NFL. It just wasn’t realistic. Not on my radar.”

Valdes figured you needed a connection or hookup to make something like that happen.

“I’d never gone to school for broadcasting so it wasn’t in the cards.”

The friend urged Valdes to reach out to connections he already had, people in his network. That was the way to open doors.

“I took his advice,” Valdes said. “Mark Levin was looking for a producer to handle the live call-in portion of the show, the screening, assisting with other stuff. They didn’t want anyone who lacked a background in politics and policy. I was a news junkie, so that fit in with what they were looking for.”

Valdes knew he loved radio, but as in anything else you may enjoy, but don’t know how to get into.

“It’s like when you’re looking at a Mustang,” Valdes explained. “You may love the car but that doesn’t mean you know how to be a grease monkey, jump right into the engine. Radio people are fascinating. I’ve always worn a suit to work. Radio people never wear a suit to work. I think that’s so cool.”

Valdes served a couple of years in Chris Christie’s administration in New Jersey, mostly in the department of children and families, family success centers and other program management.

“I went wherever the governor’s office wanted me to go,” Valdes said. “I was a liaison of cross-developmental functions. Whatever was in the administration’s best interest. I was at the forefront of a lot of significant cuts to state budgets.

I imagine they were looking for someone they felt could communicate.”

Valdes worked as director of communications for a small college in New Jersey.

“I studied communications, organizational behavior, and business.  I was always a talker,” he said. “I’d analyze culture, trends, underperforming staff and areas, charting, finding people that were in the wrong places.”

That expertise led him to a TEDx Talk at Bergen Community College in Paramus, New Jersey.

“It was an education-focused forum regarding innovation,” Valdes said.

Someone had referred Valdes for this talk as he’d dealt with students, outreach and faith-based organizations. In his forum Valdes explained how people can use their own networks and political skills to navigate their own lives, the politics of education.

“It took me a couple of months to complete that presentation,” Valdes said. “I wanted it to be flawless. I had a quote from Einstein I memorized for the presentation, but I forgot it. It didn’t come out the way I’d intended. At the end of the day, there was great applause. The organizers said I did a great job. It taught me something about my radio career. You may think you have a monologue all set and you’re ready to knock people dead, only you forget a piece of it. The clock runs out and you have to rely on your instincts and experience.”

Faith is an important part of Valdes’ life.  He said for many people faith can be overshadowed by popular culture.

“We have block parties in our neighborhood and it’s the church that makes things like that happen. It is the church that brings communities together.”

Relating to his show, Valdes said listeners can be confident they are listening to the genuine article every time they tune in.

“I could never perpetuate something I don’t believe in,” Valdes explained. “It goes back to always being authentic, the thing Mark Levin said to me. Some topics need to be covered whether you disagree with me or not. I’ll always stand by my opinions. People will call in angry, calling with a contrary point. I just thank them for their call and move on.”

Valdes said he’d rather lose his job than have listeners think he compromised his actual beliefs and views.

“Nobody at Westwood One has ever asked me to change my opinion for the company,” Valdes explained. “Personally, I feel the company’s goal is to weed those kinds of fakers out, ensuring they are authentic on the air.”

Valdes said he can recall many times he sat in his driveway just listening to the radio, unable to pull away.

“My wife would open the front door and see me sitting there, asking me why I was just sitting there. I told her I wanted to see what Levin was going to say to that guy on hold. Listening to Levin does that to me.”

He explained Air America was always crying, whining, moaning.

“You couldn’t laugh on the air. Oh, never. That would be horrible,” he said with sarcasm. “They were always relating how this was the worst place ever, despite having all the opportunities in front of them. For someone to trash the U.S. when I see people coming from all over to live here, just doesn’t make sense to me. Also, people don’t subscribe to their hard left ideology.”

Valdes believes he understands why there is a dearth of left-leaning shows on the air.

“I think the free market is responsible for the lack of left-leaning shows,” he said. “We had Air America, but that basically sucked. It just wasn’t good. Radio, above all else, should be entertaining and informative. You have to get people to want to stay in there during a commercial to see what you’re saying on the other side of what you started.”

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  1. Tim Rice

    February 21, 2023 at 12:16 pm

    Growing up in Chicago, I am familiar with many great radio hosts. Rich Valdes (With an S) belongs!

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Trump vs DeSantis Talk in 2023? You’re Wasting Your Listener’s Time

“I could scan local TV stations, newspaper websites and blogs and find more compelling stories with a more immediate and local impact in less than five minutes.”



I’m already tired.

No, not because I’m a morning show host who’s about to wrap up the week. I’m tired because it’s only March of 2023 and half of what I see on Twitter is Trump vs. DeSantis trolls going after each other.

Make. It. Stop.

OK, I can’t do that.

Although I guess I could stop following certain people on the platform, but that’s an option for another day.

But as it pertains to talk radio, before thinking this is a great Topic A or B for a show, let’s actually dissect whether or not this makes any sense to discuss at length.

First off, conservatives are usually the ones more likely to rightly point out that Twitter, and the rest of social media, is not real life. But for too many on Twitter, and elsewhere, they aren’t taking their own advice on this issue. It’s wildly hypocritical. 

Granted, some of them are employed by either side, but most are not, and it’s exhausting to open up a social media app and see this back and forth with still one year to go until most primaries take place. 

However, more importantly, as it pertains to local talk radio, there’s very little value in bringing any of this to your talk show in March of 2023. Walk around your community, do you really think the water cooler conversations are about Donald Trump vs. Ron DeSantis? I would guess that’s highly unlikely unless you work at the RNC or you’re a landscaper at Mar-A-Lago. 

I could scan local TV stations, newspaper websites and blogs and find more compelling stories with a more immediate and local impact in less than five minutes. It might be more work from a topic development standpoint, but it’s doing the service that your audience expects of you as a local host. Plus, who wants to spend the next 12 months debating this nonsense?

Count me out.

That day will come as the 2024 election draws near, the storylines build and it becomes of more interest to the audience. But this week we just hit the first day of spring… in 2023! 

On top of that, this topic is very likely to divide much of your audience earlier than you need to. What’s the benefit of that? Once again, that day may come, although who really knows what the next several months could bring?

If there’s anything we should know living through and covering the last few years of news, it’s to expect the unexpected. What we think will happen 12 months from now is almost guaranteed to not actually be the case. 

So let’s go down the three-point check-list here: 

  1. It’s not local or incredibly topical for most people right now
  2. It’s an audience divider
  3. The landscape isn’t guaranteed to look the same in 12 months

In this case, we can check off all three of those items with confidence. 

So while national politics will likely always be blended into a multi-hour show, when appropriate, there’s absolutely no point in doing deep dives or taking multiple segments of callers on this topic at this point and time. It’s going to be a tune-out for most.

Plus, spare yourself the pain this early. And trust me, it will be painful when the time comes. At some point, you’ll be longing for the simpler days of March 2023.

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Make Your AM Radio Content Necessary And Don’t Hope For A Government Bailout

If there is something so crucial to the mix, why have and why do AM signals regularly cross their content over to an FM signal?

Bill Zito




Let us venture back to the business of radio. The fate of AM radio in cars is once again creating a buzz, a buzz electric car makers say is one of the reasons they’re not putting the AM band in their new EVs.

Apparently, the electric components in the EVs create static interference, making the AM signal unintelligible and useless.

On its face, that makes some sense to me. Plus, I know nothing of frequencies or signals and not much more about intricate technology.

So, I don’t see what the big deal really is if some cars don’t have AM radios. Some boats don’t, most tractors either, haven’t seen one on a horse lately.

I do not want nor do I advocate the elimination, disappearance, reduction of services or personnel connected to AM radio. I currently work in AM and FM radio, why would I support the demise of the AM signal? But can we be real, can we be accurate here?

Look around, it’s already begun. Volkswagen, Audi, Tesla, and Porsche have already pulled or will be pulling AM radio from their electric vehicles. Ford’s F150 Lightning and next year’s Mustang will also be minus the AM band.

From a business standpoint, I would assume the market for cars — as for many things — is largely directed towards the emerging as well as the current consumer. What do they want and what do they make use of? I think it’s fair to assume that a lot of people are or will be looking for EVs.

How many will be looking for or want AM radios in those cars?

The broadcast industry would be better served if they looked for the answer to that question.

Besides, what does AM have to offer at this point that FM does not? What is it that AM can do under these conditions that FM cannot?

The broadcast pharaohs and their political fronts say we must maintain the presence of AM radio in cars, even electric cars, because when it comes down to it, AM radio will be the source of moment by moment information when disaster strikes.

This week, Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) announced his multi-pronged plan aimed at keeping AM in all vehicles. Along with urging automakers to go along, Gottheimer has called on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to add AM radio to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.”

According to his website, that move would “require all automakers, EV included, to have AM radio as a stock feature in their vehicles.”

Sen. Edward J. Markey (D-MA) launched similar measures last year.

Let’s go back to the question: what can AM do that the FM cannot? And if there is something so crucial to the mix, why have and why do AM signals regularly cross their content over to an FM signal? More news, talk, sports, whatever pops up on the FM all the time. It’s already a haven for spoken word broadcast (I just love working in the term spoken word wherever I can).

In case of emergency and disaster, would an FM station not do what an AM brand would? If the tornado or missiles are heading our way would the FM just keep playing Lizzo and Dua Lipa? Will the Giants game go on uninterrupted while we drive along in ignorance?

If emergency information is on the AM only and not on the FM there’s only one reason that can be; the people in charge are not putting it there.

Listen to 1010 WINS in New York City at 1010 AM and then 92.3 FM, notice a difference? Where are you finding WTOP or KNX these days? Why? Maybe it all sounds better.

This is an old argument with an evergreen answer, these were studied, calculated business moves.

The idea? To find and attract as many listeners as possible.

Where do you put your best people, your best content? Where they are accessible, yes? Where an audience is likely to look for and find them, right? It’s hard to make them go looking for it.

For a radio, AM/FM or otherwise to be of any use, to do any good at all, it has to be on.

Look, there is no shame in wanting to keep AM radio from going away. It’s perfectly understandable. I have a 1941 Zenith upright in my living room. I love the way it looks plus it gets AM, FM and occasionally the drive thru at Arby’s.

But I also have an Alexa, a Bose, and I don’t know how many channels to watch and stream on my TV. I mean, unless you’re driving the overnight long-haul route to Butte, how many of us have CB radios in our cars? Or 8-track, cassette or CD players?

Try and buy a new car with a standard transmission. Most things in life have a generational shelf life. For now, the AM listeners are still in their cars, they’re certainly not at home.

But that will continue to change, at minimum it will evolve.

So how much effort and expense are we going to put forth to try and convince people they want something they obviously do not or prove to them they need something they don’t think they do?

Convince me. Convince them.

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Cable News Channels Saw Massive Spikes During Alex Murdaugh Verdict

Even the prime time lineup of nascent news outlet NewsNation got a sizable bounce, especially for “Cuomo”, which achieved its most-watched edition in total viewers, to-date.

Doug Pucci



The Alex Murdaugh double-murder trial came to a conclusion on the evening of Thursday Mar. 2, Murdaugh, a member of a prominent South Carolina family and former attorney, was found guilty of shooting and killing both his wife Maggie and their youngest son Paul at their residence, and cable news outlets benefited greatly.

The court case that riveted the nation throughout the month of February was, of course, covered by many news outlets including broadcast and cable news as well as the various syndicated newsmagazines like Inside Edition and TMZ.

Leading the pack in cable news coverage was Fox News Channel. Normally topping the 7-8 p.m. hour with Jesse Watters Primetime on this night that hour delivered 3.51 million total viewers including 443,000 within the key 25-64 demographic, according to Nielsen Media Research. A far distant runner-up in total audience was MSNBC with 1.37 million; in adults 25-54, CNN (243,000) was closest to FNC among cable networks.

All three outlets drew at well above-average levels within the 7 p.m. hour and the few hours afterwards due to the verdict, as the following percentage increases show in comparison to their prior week (Feb. 20-24, 2023) returns:

Fox News Channel

  • Jesse Watters Primetime (7-8 p.m.): 3.511 million viewers (+32%); 443,000 adults 25-54 (+65%)
  • Tucker Carlson Tonight (8-9 p.m.): 3.346 million viewers (+9%); 449,000 adults 25-54 (+15%)
  • Hannity (9-10 p.m.): 2.852 million viewers (+18%); 404,000 adults 25-54 (+37%)


  • The Reidout (7-8 p.m.): 1.373 million viewers (+24%); 156,000 adults 25-54 (+42%)
  • All In with Chris Hayes (8-9 p.m.): 1.515 million viewers (+39%); 153,000 adults 25-54 (+53%) (for Feb. 20-24, MSNBC aired nightly hourlong specials in the 8-9 p.m.slot marking the one-year anniversary of Russian’s invasion of Ukraine)
  • Alex Wagner Tonight (9-10 p.m.): 1.317 million viewers (+6%); 145,000 adults 25-54 (+26%)
  • Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell (10-11 p.m.): 1.544 viewers (+15%) viewers; 118,000 adults 25-54 (-9%)


  • Erin Burnett Outfront (7-8 p.m.): 1.130 million viewers (+89%); 243,000 adults 25-54 (+91%)
  • Anderson Cooper 360 (8-9 p.m.): 1.183 million viewers (+79%); 191,000 adults 25-54 (+48%)

Even the prime time lineup of nascent news outlet NewsNation got a sizable bounce, especially for “Cuomo”, which achieved its most-watched edition in total viewers, to-date.

  • On Balance with Leland Vittert (7-8 p.m.): 123,000 viewers (+146%); 44,000 adults 25-54 (+389%)
  • Cuomo (8-9 p.m.): 231,000 viewers (+116%); 49,000 adults 25-54 (+227%)
  • Dan Abrams Live (9-10 p.m.): 160,000 viewers (+44%); 29,000 adults 25-54 (+32%)
  • Banfield (10-11 p.m.): 180,000 viewers (+82%); 40,000 adults 25-54 (+135%)

CBS was the lone broadcast network whose breaking news coverage of the Murdaugh verdict was published by Nielsen. It delivered 3.824 million viewers from 7:04-7:14 p.m. Eastern; that night’s edition of the CBS Evening News which preceded the special report on many CBS affiliates in the Eastern and Central time zones had drawn 5.11 million.

Cable news averages for February 27-March 5, 2023:

Total Day (Feb. 27-Mar. 5 @ 6 a.m.-5:59 a.m.)

  • Fox News Channel: 1.375 million viewers; 177,000 adults 25-54
  • MSNBC: 0.693 million viewers; 76,000 adults 25-54
  • CNN: 0.446 million viewers; 84,000 adults 25-54
  • HLN: 0.148 million viewers; 38,000 adults 25-54
  • CNBC: 0.114 million viewers; 26,000 adults 25-54
  • Fox Business Network: 0.114 million viewers; 12,000 adults 25-54
  • The Weather Channel: 0.109 million viewers; 19,000 adults 25-54
  • Newsmax: 0.092 million viewers; 9,000 adults 25-54

Prime Time (Feb. 27-Mar. 4 @ 8-11 p.m.; Mar. 5 @ 7-11 p.m.)

  • Fox News Channel: 2.087 million viewers; 253,000 adults 25-54
  • MSNBC: 1.130 million viewers; 106,000 adults 25-54
  • CNN: 0.530 million viewers; 105,000 adults 25-54
  • HLN: 0.203 million viewers; 48,000 adults 25-54
  • CNBC: 0.159 million viewers; 43,000 adults 25-54
  • The Weather Channel: 0.134 million viewers; 21,000 adults 25-54
  • NewsNation: 0.115 million viewers; 22,000 adults 25-54
  • Newsmax: 0.099 million viewers; 14,000 adults 25-54
  • Fox Business Network: 0.061 million viewers; 12,000 adults 25-54

Top 10 most-watched cable news programs (and the top programs of other outlets with their respective associated ranks) in total viewers:

1. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.511 million viewers

2. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.346 million viewers

3. The Five (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.313 million viewers

4. The Five (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.189 million viewers

5. The Five (FOXNC, Wed. 3/1/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.133 million viewers

6. The Five (FOXNC, Tue. 2/28/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.087 million viewers

7. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.076 million viewers

8. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Tue. 2/28/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.009 million viewers

9. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Wed. 3/1/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.943 million viewers

10. The Five (FOXNC, Fri. 3/3/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.899 million viewers

21. Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC, Mon. 2/27/2023 9:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.383 million viewers

120. Anderson Cooper 360 (CNN, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 1.183 million viewers

181. Real Time With Bill Maher “Episode 626” (HBO, Fri. 3/3/2023 10:00 PM, 57 min.) 0.738 million viewers

360. The Daily Show “Mar 1, 23 – Hasan Minhaj” (CMDY, Wed. 3/1/2023 11:00 PM, 30 min.) 0.378 million viewers

375. Varney & Company (FBN, Thu. 3/2/2023 10:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.344 million viewers

379. Highway Thru Hell “(1108) Deep Freeze” (TWC, Sun. 3/5/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.335 million viewers

424. Forensic Files (HLN, late Sat. 3/4/2023 12:30 AM, 30 min.) 0.269 million viewers

425. Fast Money Halftime Report (CNBC, Tue. 2/28/2023 12:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.268 million viewers

460. Cuomo “Alex Murdaugh Verdict” (NWSN, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.231 million viewers

Top 10 cable news programs (and the top  programs of other outlets with their respective associated ranks) among adults 25-54:

1. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Wed. 3/1/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.459 million adults 25-54

2. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.449 million adults 25-54

3. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.443 million adults 25-54

4. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.417 million adults 25-54

5. Hannity (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 9:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.404 million adults 25-54

6. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Tue. 2/28/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.403 million adults 25-54

7. The Five (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.362 million adults 25-54

8. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.359 million adults 25-54

9. The Five (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.351 million adults 25-54

10. The Five (FOXNC, Wed. 3/1/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.340 million adults 25-54

29. Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC, Mon. 2/27/2023 9:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.263 million adults 25-54

32. Erin Burnett Outfront (CNN, Thu. 3/2/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.243 million adults 25-54

105. The Daily Show “Mar 1, 23 – Hasan Minhaj” (CMDY, Wed. 3/1/2023 11:00 PM, 30 min.) 0.154 million adults 25-54

145. Real Time With Bill Maher “Episode 626” (HBO, Fri. 3/3/2023 10:00 PM, 57 min.) 0.124 million adults 25-54

241. Forensic Files (HLN, late Wed. 3/1/2023 2:00 AM, 30 min.) 0.094 million adults 25-54

342. Shark Tank “Shark Tank 713” (CNBC, Thu. 3/2/2023 10:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.072 million adults 25-54

385. Weather Underground (TWC, Fri. 3/3/2023 2:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.064 million adults 25-54

487. Cuomo “Alex Murdaugh Verdict” (NWSN, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.049 million adults 25-54

609. Mornings with Maria Bartiromo (FBN, Mon. 2/27/2023 8:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.034 million adults 25-54

Source: Live+Same Day data, Nielsen Media Research

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