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Amy Chodroff Found Instant Chemistry With Dave Williams on KLIF

“We’ve been working together for nearly 11 years. It’s hard to put two people together and find on-air chemistry.”

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Amy Chodroff has had two specific long-lasting relationships in her life.

The first is with her husband of nearly 30 years, Jack Fink. The second relationship is with her on-air partner Dave Williams.

“We’ve been working together for nearly 11 years,” she said of Williams. “It’s hard to put two people together and find on-air chemistry.”

Former Program Director Tyler Cox paired them and it seems to have worked more than a decade later.

Chodroff is an award-winning news reporter and co-host of News and Information in the Morning with Dave and Amy on KLIF AM 570 in Dallas. Chodroff said her husband is a great guy. Williams, too.

“Off the air, Dave and I are good friends and enjoy each other’s company,” Chodroff said. “We know each other better than our spouses spending four hours a day with each other in a small room.”

Chodroff said Williams is easygoing and a fabulous writer. “If I’m having a tough day he picks me up.”

Jack Fink is a long-tenured political reporter at CBS 11 in Dallas. Before moving to North Texas, Fink worked for television stations in Orlando, Southern California, Fort Myers-Naples, and Utica, New York. He began his journalism career in Syracuse, where he was an anchor and reporter at WHEN-AM.

While not a showbiz family, you wouldn’t be wrong to call them a broadcasting family. When their daughter Jenna Fink was 10 years old, she’d call the station weekly and Chodroff would put her on the air.

“Jenna would give predictions for the Cowboys games over the phone. The segment was called Fink on Football. She has been into sports ever since she was a kid.”

Those early broadcasting experiences on-air must have sparked something. Flash-forward 13 years, Jenna Fink is now the sports director at KHSL/KNVN in Chico, California.

“When Jenna told us she wanted to go into the ‘family business,’ my husband Jack and I looked at each other and couldn’t believe what she said,” Chodroff explained. “She was smart and earned a business degree as a backup.”

In the crazy world of media, that was probably a wise move.

Jenna not only chose the same profession as her parents, but she also selected the same place to study. Chodroff and her husband both went to Syracuse and graduated from the S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications. Jenna did the same.

“I guess Syracuse checked all the boxes for her,” Chodroff said. “I thought she’d made a good college choice in the end.”

Her younger daughter Jillian wanted nothing to do with Syracuse because she was all too familiar with the weather.

“She only wanted to go to school in the south,” Chodroff said. “Syracuse was not even on her list. Jillian had no interest in the ‘family business’ either.

Jillian danced and competed in gymnastics when she was young. She too loves her Cowboys, but unlike her sister, she’s perfectly happy watching from the stands.

“She’s a total go-getter,’ Chodroff said. “She loves her teams out in Arizona. Loves college football.”

Chodroff worked as a midday anchor at WDBO Radio in Orlando, as well as stations in Los Angeles and Tampa. Despite the rigors of the media industry, she’s proud of the way she and her husband raised their daughters. The aforementioned oddsmaker Jenna is 24, and there’s 20-year-old Jillian.

“If I want to assess my skills as a parent I just look at my end product,” Chodroff smiled. “As far as solid parenting is concerned, it’s important you’re both on the same page. I think that makes all the difference in a marriage and raising your child.”

Chodroff wanted two things for her daughters above all else. First, they were kind people. Secondly, whatever they chose to do with their lives made them happy. Chodroff is confident to say her girls achieved both.

New York City is a respite for her family and they get back when they can.

“We love to go to Broadway shows, we love the food. Most people don’t know the dairy industry is the single largest segment in the New York agricultural industry,” Chodroff said.

Jack Fink still has family in New York, although Chodroff said they don’t get back as much as they’d like.

Chodroff is a giver. She said she likes doing nice things for people when they’re sick or unable to get around.

“I’ll cook dinner for someone, especially when they’re not expecting it.”

She does more than cook. Chodroff said she’s a Mrs. Fix-it around the house.

“We live in a new house so my expert fixing skills aren’t required much,” she jokes. “I have fixed toilets, put in new electrical sockets, painted walls and replaced  fixtures.”

Chodroff credits an experience when she was a kid that helped her hone these Home Depot-esque skills. One day her bedroom door wouldn’t open, no matter what she did. Her father slid tools under the door so she could take the whole thing off its hinges. That’s pretty handy for any kid.

Working a full-time job with two children can be a daunting task. Chodroff said there were times she and Jack were like ships in the night.

“The kids had a lot of evening activities and I was going to bed early,” Chodroff said. “Jack began to work days so he’d have nights with the kids.”

When Chodroff and her husband had children, they elected to not put them into daycare. If they could swing it they preferred to have one of them stay home while the other was at work.

“I know opting for childcare can be a difficult choice for some people,” Chodroff explained. “And I recall there weren’t a lot of daycare centers around for us 24 years ago. We looked at a few, but couldn’t find the right place for the girls.”

Her parents moved to Dallas from Florida and provided a great deal of help when the girls were young.

“Jenna was a figure skater and got up early to skate,” Chodroff said. “My dad would often pick her up from practice.”

Chodroff said it was a welcome moment for all when Jenna learned how to drive herself to the rink.

Robert helped with transporting Jillian for commitments. So much so, Jillian started calling her grandfather, Maxie the Taxi.

While raising their daughters Chodroff said each parent was equally present, an equal contributor.

“MommyDaddy was one name,” she said. “Jack would style the girls’ hair and they called him ‘hair stylist to the stars.'”

The younger child Jillian is a sophomore studying education at the University of Arizona.  “She’s fabulous with kids and has the patience of a saint.”

When she can take some time for herself, Chodroff said she stays busy helping her mom, and the kids need attention from time to time. She also plays Pickleball regularly and said she’s still learning the game.

“I’ve got to master the finer points,” Chodroff said. “We have a few courts in the neighborhood, and I’ve met a lot of new people that help me learn the game. We can just walk up to a group of people by the court and say, ‘Who wants to play?’ You can play as much or as little as you want.”

Despite being from Boston, Chodroff has never worked in her hometown and never really had the desire.

“I guess I’m a Texas woman now as this has been home for 20 years,” she said. “We raised our family here. I’m part of a book club. The last book we read was pretty bad. I don’t think everyone enjoyed it.”

Chodroff enjoys reading biographies and learning about the lives of other people. Perhaps that’s part of a journalist’s perpetual curiosity.  The impetus for a career in broadcasting came to Chodroff in the form of a television commercial.

“I was watching television when an ad appeared saying a local cable channel was looking for volunteers,” she said. “I popped up and told my mother, ‘I wanted to do that.'”

Her mother drove Chodroff to Canton Cable 8. Soon afterward, Chodroff started doing graphics at the station and other behind the scene stuff.

“I moved on to man-on-the-street interviews I conducted in front of the post office. I’d ask people what they thought of the big stories of the day.”

There may have been one prior indicator Chodroff might have had unrealized aspirations in broadcasting.

“I used to read the school announcements every morning,” she said. “The woman in the office at Canton High School hated doing them so I started reading them to the students. That may have been the beginning for me.”

Sounds like Chodroff owes that woman a fruit basket.

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Trump vs DeSantis Talk in 2023? You’re Wasting Your Listener’s Time

“I could scan local TV stations, newspaper websites and blogs and find more compelling stories with a more immediate and local impact in less than five minutes.”

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I’m already tired.

No, not because I’m a morning show host who’s about to wrap up the week. I’m tired because it’s only March of 2023 and half of what I see on Twitter is Trump vs. DeSantis trolls going after each other.

Make. It. Stop.

OK, I can’t do that.

Although I guess I could stop following certain people on the platform, but that’s an option for another day.

But as it pertains to talk radio, before thinking this is a great Topic A or B for a show, let’s actually dissect whether or not this makes any sense to discuss at length.

First off, conservatives are usually the ones more likely to rightly point out that Twitter, and the rest of social media, is not real life. But for too many on Twitter, and elsewhere, they aren’t taking their own advice on this issue. It’s wildly hypocritical. 

Granted, some of them are employed by either side, but most are not, and it’s exhausting to open up a social media app and see this back and forth with still one year to go until most primaries take place. 

However, more importantly, as it pertains to local talk radio, there’s very little value in bringing any of this to your talk show in March of 2023. Walk around your community, do you really think the water cooler conversations are about Donald Trump vs. Ron DeSantis? I would guess that’s highly unlikely unless you work at the RNC or you’re a landscaper at Mar-A-Lago. 

I could scan local TV stations, newspaper websites and blogs and find more compelling stories with a more immediate and local impact in less than five minutes. It might be more work from a topic development standpoint, but it’s doing the service that your audience expects of you as a local host. Plus, who wants to spend the next 12 months debating this nonsense?

Count me out.

That day will come as the 2024 election draws near, the storylines build and it becomes of more interest to the audience. But this week we just hit the first day of spring… in 2023! 

On top of that, this topic is very likely to divide much of your audience earlier than you need to. What’s the benefit of that? Once again, that day may come, although who really knows what the next several months could bring?

If there’s anything we should know living through and covering the last few years of news, it’s to expect the unexpected. What we think will happen 12 months from now is almost guaranteed to not actually be the case. 

So let’s go down the three-point check-list here: 

  1. It’s not local or incredibly topical for most people right now
  2. It’s an audience divider
  3. The landscape isn’t guaranteed to look the same in 12 months

In this case, we can check off all three of those items with confidence. 

So while national politics will likely always be blended into a multi-hour show, when appropriate, there’s absolutely no point in doing deep dives or taking multiple segments of callers on this topic at this point and time. It’s going to be a tune-out for most.

Plus, spare yourself the pain this early. And trust me, it will be painful when the time comes. At some point, you’ll be longing for the simpler days of March 2023.

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Make Your AM Radio Content Necessary And Don’t Hope For A Government Bailout

If there is something so crucial to the mix, why have and why do AM signals regularly cross their content over to an FM signal?

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Let us venture back to the business of radio. The fate of AM radio in cars is once again creating a buzz, a buzz electric car makers say is one of the reasons they’re not putting the AM band in their new EVs.

Apparently, the electric components in the EVs create static interference, making the AM signal unintelligible and useless.

On its face, that makes some sense to me. Plus, I know nothing of frequencies or signals and not much more about intricate technology.

So, I don’t see what the big deal really is if some cars don’t have AM radios. Some boats don’t, most tractors either, haven’t seen one on a horse lately.

I do not want nor do I advocate the elimination, disappearance, reduction of services or personnel connected to AM radio. I currently work in AM and FM radio, why would I support the demise of the AM signal? But can we be real, can we be accurate here?

Look around, it’s already begun. Volkswagen, Audi, Tesla, and Porsche have already pulled or will be pulling AM radio from their electric vehicles. Ford’s F150 Lightning and next year’s Mustang will also be minus the AM band.

From a business standpoint, I would assume the market for cars — as for many things — is largely directed towards the emerging as well as the current consumer. What do they want and what do they make use of? I think it’s fair to assume that a lot of people are or will be looking for EVs.

How many will be looking for or want AM radios in those cars?

The broadcast industry would be better served if they looked for the answer to that question.

Besides, what does AM have to offer at this point that FM does not? What is it that AM can do under these conditions that FM cannot?

The broadcast pharaohs and their political fronts say we must maintain the presence of AM radio in cars, even electric cars, because when it comes down to it, AM radio will be the source of moment by moment information when disaster strikes.

This week, Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) announced his multi-pronged plan aimed at keeping AM in all vehicles. Along with urging automakers to go along, Gottheimer has called on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to add AM radio to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.”

According to his website, that move would “require all automakers, EV included, to have AM radio as a stock feature in their vehicles.”

Sen. Edward J. Markey (D-MA) launched similar measures last year.

Let’s go back to the question: what can AM do that the FM cannot? And if there is something so crucial to the mix, why have and why do AM signals regularly cross their content over to an FM signal? More news, talk, sports, whatever pops up on the FM all the time. It’s already a haven for spoken word broadcast (I just love working in the term spoken word wherever I can).

In case of emergency and disaster, would an FM station not do what an AM brand would? If the tornado or missiles are heading our way would the FM just keep playing Lizzo and Dua Lipa? Will the Giants game go on uninterrupted while we drive along in ignorance?

If emergency information is on the AM only and not on the FM there’s only one reason that can be; the people in charge are not putting it there.

Listen to 1010 WINS in New York City at 1010 AM and then 92.3 FM, notice a difference? Where are you finding WTOP or KNX these days? Why? Maybe it all sounds better.

This is an old argument with an evergreen answer, these were studied, calculated business moves.

The idea? To find and attract as many listeners as possible.

Where do you put your best people, your best content? Where they are accessible, yes? Where an audience is likely to look for and find them, right? It’s hard to make them go looking for it.

For a radio, AM/FM or otherwise to be of any use, to do any good at all, it has to be on.

Look, there is no shame in wanting to keep AM radio from going away. It’s perfectly understandable. I have a 1941 Zenith upright in my living room. I love the way it looks plus it gets AM, FM and occasionally the drive thru at Arby’s.

But I also have an Alexa, a Bose, and I don’t know how many channels to watch and stream on my TV. I mean, unless you’re driving the overnight long-haul route to Butte, how many of us have CB radios in our cars? Or 8-track, cassette or CD players?

Try and buy a new car with a standard transmission. Most things in life have a generational shelf life. For now, the AM listeners are still in their cars, they’re certainly not at home.

But that will continue to change, at minimum it will evolve.

So how much effort and expense are we going to put forth to try and convince people they want something they obviously do not or prove to them they need something they don’t think they do?

Convince me. Convince them.

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Cable News Channels Saw Massive Spikes During Alex Murdaugh Verdict

Even the prime time lineup of nascent news outlet NewsNation got a sizable bounce, especially for “Cuomo”, which achieved its most-watched edition in total viewers, to-date.

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The Alex Murdaugh double-murder trial came to a conclusion on the evening of Thursday Mar. 2, Murdaugh, a member of a prominent South Carolina family and former attorney, was found guilty of shooting and killing both his wife Maggie and their youngest son Paul at their residence, and cable news outlets benefited greatly.

The court case that riveted the nation throughout the month of February was, of course, covered by many news outlets including broadcast and cable news as well as the various syndicated newsmagazines like Inside Edition and TMZ.

Leading the pack in cable news coverage was Fox News Channel. Normally topping the 7-8 p.m. hour with Jesse Watters Primetime on this night that hour delivered 3.51 million total viewers including 443,000 within the key 25-64 demographic, according to Nielsen Media Research. A far distant runner-up in total audience was MSNBC with 1.37 million; in adults 25-54, CNN (243,000) was closest to FNC among cable networks.

All three outlets drew at well above-average levels within the 7 p.m. hour and the few hours afterwards due to the verdict, as the following percentage increases show in comparison to their prior week (Feb. 20-24, 2023) returns:

Fox News Channel

  • Jesse Watters Primetime (7-8 p.m.): 3.511 million viewers (+32%); 443,000 adults 25-54 (+65%)
  • Tucker Carlson Tonight (8-9 p.m.): 3.346 million viewers (+9%); 449,000 adults 25-54 (+15%)
  • Hannity (9-10 p.m.): 2.852 million viewers (+18%); 404,000 adults 25-54 (+37%)

MSNBC

  • The Reidout (7-8 p.m.): 1.373 million viewers (+24%); 156,000 adults 25-54 (+42%)
  • All In with Chris Hayes (8-9 p.m.): 1.515 million viewers (+39%); 153,000 adults 25-54 (+53%) (for Feb. 20-24, MSNBC aired nightly hourlong specials in the 8-9 p.m.slot marking the one-year anniversary of Russian’s invasion of Ukraine)
  • Alex Wagner Tonight (9-10 p.m.): 1.317 million viewers (+6%); 145,000 adults 25-54 (+26%)
  • Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell (10-11 p.m.): 1.544 viewers (+15%) viewers; 118,000 adults 25-54 (-9%)

CNN

  • Erin Burnett Outfront (7-8 p.m.): 1.130 million viewers (+89%); 243,000 adults 25-54 (+91%)
  • Anderson Cooper 360 (8-9 p.m.): 1.183 million viewers (+79%); 191,000 adults 25-54 (+48%)

Even the prime time lineup of nascent news outlet NewsNation got a sizable bounce, especially for “Cuomo”, which achieved its most-watched edition in total viewers, to-date.

  • On Balance with Leland Vittert (7-8 p.m.): 123,000 viewers (+146%); 44,000 adults 25-54 (+389%)
  • Cuomo (8-9 p.m.): 231,000 viewers (+116%); 49,000 adults 25-54 (+227%)
  • Dan Abrams Live (9-10 p.m.): 160,000 viewers (+44%); 29,000 adults 25-54 (+32%)
  • Banfield (10-11 p.m.): 180,000 viewers (+82%); 40,000 adults 25-54 (+135%)

CBS was the lone broadcast network whose breaking news coverage of the Murdaugh verdict was published by Nielsen. It delivered 3.824 million viewers from 7:04-7:14 p.m. Eastern; that night’s edition of the CBS Evening News which preceded the special report on many CBS affiliates in the Eastern and Central time zones had drawn 5.11 million.

Cable news averages for February 27-March 5, 2023:

Total Day (Feb. 27-Mar. 5 @ 6 a.m.-5:59 a.m.)

  • Fox News Channel: 1.375 million viewers; 177,000 adults 25-54
  • MSNBC: 0.693 million viewers; 76,000 adults 25-54
  • CNN: 0.446 million viewers; 84,000 adults 25-54
  • HLN: 0.148 million viewers; 38,000 adults 25-54
  • CNBC: 0.114 million viewers; 26,000 adults 25-54
  • Fox Business Network: 0.114 million viewers; 12,000 adults 25-54
  • The Weather Channel: 0.109 million viewers; 19,000 adults 25-54
  • Newsmax: 0.092 million viewers; 9,000 adults 25-54

Prime Time (Feb. 27-Mar. 4 @ 8-11 p.m.; Mar. 5 @ 7-11 p.m.)

  • Fox News Channel: 2.087 million viewers; 253,000 adults 25-54
  • MSNBC: 1.130 million viewers; 106,000 adults 25-54
  • CNN: 0.530 million viewers; 105,000 adults 25-54
  • HLN: 0.203 million viewers; 48,000 adults 25-54
  • CNBC: 0.159 million viewers; 43,000 adults 25-54
  • The Weather Channel: 0.134 million viewers; 21,000 adults 25-54
  • NewsNation: 0.115 million viewers; 22,000 adults 25-54
  • Newsmax: 0.099 million viewers; 14,000 adults 25-54
  • Fox Business Network: 0.061 million viewers; 12,000 adults 25-54

Top 10 most-watched cable news programs (and the top programs of other outlets with their respective associated ranks) in total viewers:

1. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.511 million viewers

2. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.346 million viewers

3. The Five (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.313 million viewers

4. The Five (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.189 million viewers

5. The Five (FOXNC, Wed. 3/1/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.133 million viewers

6. The Five (FOXNC, Tue. 2/28/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.087 million viewers

7. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.076 million viewers

8. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Tue. 2/28/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 3.009 million viewers

9. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Wed. 3/1/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.943 million viewers

10. The Five (FOXNC, Fri. 3/3/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.899 million viewers

21. Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC, Mon. 2/27/2023 9:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.383 million viewers

120. Anderson Cooper 360 (CNN, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 1.183 million viewers

181. Real Time With Bill Maher “Episode 626” (HBO, Fri. 3/3/2023 10:00 PM, 57 min.) 0.738 million viewers

360. The Daily Show “Mar 1, 23 – Hasan Minhaj” (CMDY, Wed. 3/1/2023 11:00 PM, 30 min.) 0.378 million viewers

375. Varney & Company (FBN, Thu. 3/2/2023 10:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.344 million viewers

379. Highway Thru Hell “(1108) Deep Freeze” (TWC, Sun. 3/5/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.335 million viewers

424. Forensic Files (HLN, late Sat. 3/4/2023 12:30 AM, 30 min.) 0.269 million viewers

425. Fast Money Halftime Report (CNBC, Tue. 2/28/2023 12:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.268 million viewers

460. Cuomo “Alex Murdaugh Verdict” (NWSN, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.231 million viewers

Top 10 cable news programs (and the top  programs of other outlets with their respective associated ranks) among adults 25-54:

1. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Wed. 3/1/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.459 million adults 25-54

2. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.449 million adults 25-54

3. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.443 million adults 25-54

4. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.417 million adults 25-54

5. Hannity (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 9:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.404 million adults 25-54

6. Tucker Carlson Tonight (FOXNC, Tue. 2/28/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.403 million adults 25-54

7. The Five (FOXNC, Thu. 3/2/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.362 million adults 25-54

8. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.359 million adults 25-54

9. The Five (FOXNC, Mon. 2/27/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.351 million adults 25-54

10. The Five (FOXNC, Wed. 3/1/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.340 million adults 25-54

29. Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC, Mon. 2/27/2023 9:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.263 million adults 25-54

32. Erin Burnett Outfront (CNN, Thu. 3/2/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.243 million adults 25-54

105. The Daily Show “Mar 1, 23 – Hasan Minhaj” (CMDY, Wed. 3/1/2023 11:00 PM, 30 min.) 0.154 million adults 25-54

145. Real Time With Bill Maher “Episode 626” (HBO, Fri. 3/3/2023 10:00 PM, 57 min.) 0.124 million adults 25-54

241. Forensic Files (HLN, late Wed. 3/1/2023 2:00 AM, 30 min.) 0.094 million adults 25-54

342. Shark Tank “Shark Tank 713” (CNBC, Thu. 3/2/2023 10:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.072 million adults 25-54

385. Weather Underground (TWC, Fri. 3/3/2023 2:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.064 million adults 25-54

487. Cuomo “Alex Murdaugh Verdict” (NWSN, Thu. 3/2/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.049 million adults 25-54

609. Mornings with Maria Bartiromo (FBN, Mon. 2/27/2023 8:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.034 million adults 25-54

Source: Live+Same Day data, Nielsen Media Research

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